Tony Schwartz and Kimberly Manns: The Reckoning: Seeing More and Feeling More

June 6, 2023

Tony Schwartz and Kimberly Manns: The Reckoning: Seeing More and Feeling More

Kimberly Manns & Tony Schwartz June 6, 2023

Who could you become if you fully allowed yourself to accept what you really want and go for it without reservation? What’s standing in your way? With their audio learning program, The Reckoning, celebrated leadership consultants Tony Schwartz and Kimberly Manns invite you to a deep-dive exploration of why you are the person you are, and who you can be—as a human being and a leader in today’s world. 

In this podcast, Tami Simon speaks with Schwartz and Manns about their empowering seven-session audio program and their own journeys through the material they continue to learn even as they teach it. Give a listen as they discuss childhood development and confirmation bias; white male privilege and power; superiority, worthiness, and “defender” personas; the insecurity of oscillating between better than and less than; the three selves framework; encountering your core self; IFS (Internal Family Systems) therapy; the Enneagram; somatic work and trauma healing; the brave act of personal evolution called “the reckoning”; re-parenting yourself; the profound starting place called noticing; becoming a “chief energy officer”; the collective reckoning for the human species at this time; upgrading the human operating system; the four intelligences—the mind, the heart, the body, and the spirit; the qualities of one who reckons; responsibility and ownership; and more.

Note: This episode originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com.

Kimberly Manns is the CEO of H3Diversity, a consulting firm that enables leaders to bring their whole selves (head, heart, hands) to the cultivation and creation of inclusive leadership, inclusive teams, and inclusive organizations.

Author photo © Nick F Nelson

Tony Schwartz is the founder and CEO of The Energy Project, a consultancy that helps leaders become bigger human beings and transformational leaders.

Tony has delivered keynotes, workshops, and trainings at Fortune 500 companies and organizations around the globe including Apple, Unilever, Microsoft, PWC, Google, Ralph Lauren, the National Security Agency, Stanford Children’s Hospital, and the Children’s Aid Society.

Tony has written over 100 articles for the Harvard Business Review, including “Manage Your Energy, Not Your Time,” which was selected recently as one of the five most influential articles HBR has ever published. Tony shared this honor with Peter Drucker, Michael Porter, and Clayton Christensen.

Tony has also written for publications including the New York Times, the Washington Post, Forbes, and Fast Company. Tony’s groundbreaking books include The Power of Full Engagement: Managing Energy, Not Time, which spent 28 weeks on the New York Times Bestseller List, and The Way We’re Working Isn’t Working: The Four Forgotten Needs That Energize Great Performance, which was also a New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestseller.

Tony graduated Phi Betta Kappa from the University of Michigan. As a journalist for the first two decades of his career, he worked as a reporter and staff writer for the New York Times, Newsweek, New York magazine, and Esquire

Tony is married to Deborah Pines, a psychotherapist. They have two daughters and four grandchildren.

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Who could you become if you fully allowed yourself to accept what you really want and go for it without reservation? What’s standing in your way? With their audio learning program, The Reckoning, celebrated leadership consultants Tony Schwartz and Kimberly Manns invite you to a deep-dive exploration of why you are the person you are, and who you can be—as a human being and a leader in today’s world. 

In this podcast, Tami Simon speaks with Schwartz and Manns about their empowering seven-session audio program and their own journeys through the material they continue to learn even as they teach it. Give a listen as they discuss childhood development and confirmation bias; white male privilege and power; superiority, worthiness, and “defender” personas; the insecurity of oscillating between better than and less than; the three selves framework; encountering your core self; IFS (Internal Family Systems) therapy; the Enneagram; somatic work and trauma healing; the brave act of personal evolution called “the reckoning”; re-parenting yourself; the profound starting place called noticing; becoming a “chief energy officer”; the collective reckoning for the human species at this time; upgrading the human operating system; the four intelligences—the mind, the heart, the body, and the spirit; the qualities of one who reckons; responsibility and ownership; and more.

Note: This episode originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com.

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Dear Sounds True friend,

At this time of thanks-giving, I want to thank you, a beloved member of our extended Sounds True community of listeners, readers, authors, and learners worldwide.

Thank you for your interest and willingness to be an explorer of your inner world.

Thank you for your perseverance, your willingness to be here, with all of life’s great joys and terrible griefs and sorrows. Thank you for being ”on the journey,” with all of the ways life breaks open our hearts and asks us to expand and hold a larger space of love.

Thank you for your courage to be you, beloved and singular, the you that carries a unique gift, some special look, a cry and a laugh never heard before, a contribution we need. Thank you for being yourself and extending yourself to others, even in small ways, which often turn out to be huge.

My own prayer this Thanksgiving is to remain steadfast and true. Please know that here at Sounds True we remain so—and we love doing so in connection with you. We are here because you are here. This thanks-giving, I bow to the strength and goodness of our human hearts.

With you on the journey,

Tami

P.S. Here is a thanks-giving offering, a classic poem from Mary Oliver:

Praying

It doesn’t have to be
the blue iris, it could be 
weeds in a vacant lot, or a few 
small stones; just 
pay attention, then patch

a few words together and don’t try
to make them elaborate, this isn’t 
a contest but the doorway

into thanks, and a silence, in which 
another voice may speak.

Mary Oliver, Thirst

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